2014年9月1日 星期一

達秘(Darby)是接著瑪格麗特•麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald)提出秘密被提(Secret Rapture)的說法







1.  瑪格麗特·麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald) 有關秘密被提(Secret Rapture)的說法



 

瑪格麗特·麥當勞認為那些以為主來之前有可見先兆的人是錯誤的(what the sign of the Son of man is ……I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye) (1)


瑪格麗特·麥當勞認為被提是非肉眼所能看(not with observation to the natural eye),只有聖靈充滿的人才能看見主來這件屬靈的事並會被提(those who were filled with the spirit could see spiritual things……only those that are alive in him that will be caught up)


2. 達秘(Darby)有關秘密被提(Secret Rapture)的說法


達秘認為在災難臨到時,教會是無事前的通知(absolute silence as to the church),而教會亦免於啟示錄4章以後所提及的災難(the church is outside the scene of judgment in the Revelation),因為教會在審判前便被提走(the rapture of the saints take place before the execution of judgment),而達秘認為教會的被接去與舊約的以諾的情況一樣,他在沒有審判的先兆下被接走了(was translated before there was a sign of the judgment),因為教會是時刻期待(expectation was constant),因此,達秘認為教會的被提亦沒有先兆,聖靈會親自通知那被提的時間來臨(No: they were no signs, and have no application at all now; and what came on to be revealed as a necessity for the church, for its seeing the evil of the last days, the Holy Ghost has taken care to tell us is arrived.),很明顯這是達秘密被提(Secret Rapture)最清楚的說法(2)


達秘密被提(Secret Rapture)的說法,與瑪格麗特·麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald)1830年初在病中得到秘密被提的異象甚為接近。


總結:

達秘(Darby)瑪格麗特·麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald)的秘密被提(Secret Rapture)論的共同點:


1.   沒有先兆(no signs)

2.   對被提的來到需要聖靈給人的眼光才可知悉。

不同之處是瑪格麗特·麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald)提出秘密被提(Secret Rapture)的觀念是在1830年初(3),而達秘(Darby)則曾在1857年一本記載他的文章中曾提出(2)


使徒馬大提到主來提接祂的百姓時,人子的兆頭要顯在天上,地上的萬族都要哀哭。他們要看見(horao)人子,有能力,有大榮耀,駕著天上的雲降臨(24:30-31)。看見(horao)是感官上的感受,是指肉眼的的看見,瑪格麗特·麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald)提出非肉眼所能看(not with observation to the natural eye)的說法顯然違反使徒馬大的教導。


使徒保羅提到被提前有呼叫(keleuma)的聲音和天使長的聲音,又有 神的號吹響(帖前4:16-17, 林前15:52)。呼叫(keleuma)是指一個指令, 命令, 更確定地說, 指以一種吼叫, 呼喊的方式所發出, 以催逼採取行動的。達秘所說被提前對教會是無聲無息 (absolute silence as to the church) 的說法,顯然是違反使徒保羅的教導。




1.  Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  Margaret McDonald (visionary)

瑪格麗特·麥當勞(Margaret MacDonald)說:「0 it is not known what the sign of the Son of man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it……I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people…... I felt that those who were filled with the spirit could see spiritual things, and feel walking in the midst of them, while those who had not the Spirit could see nothing……Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air.




2.  John Nelson Darby  The Coming of the Lord and the Translation of the Church
(An Attempt to answer the questions, "May the Coming of the Lord be expected immediately? and will the translation of the Church be secret?" By George J. Walker. London: Whittaker & Co, 12. Ave Maria Lane. 1857.

No. 1.6. Vol. I.-Sept 1, 1857.)


達秘(Darby) 說:「Was Enoch worse off than Noah because the one declared what was coming on the world, not on himself, and was translated before there was a sign of the judgment, while the other received a warning of what concerned the circumstances he was in, so that, moved with fear, he gave heed and was saved through the deluge of waters? So with the church in the Revelation. None can deny that there is absolute silence as to the church (we do not say saints) on earth when the terrible judgments, symbolised by seals, trumpets, and vials, issue from the throne. Churches are spoken of before Revelation 4, and they are addressed after the visions close in Revelation 22. For no doubt the church ought to be the vessel of divine testimony as to what is coming, as Enoch was, and ought to be in the place of intercession, as was Abraham; but the church is outside the scene of judgment in the Revelation, as both these types were in Genesis.


Does the rapture of the saints take place before the execution of judgment? All scripture answers, yes.


At first, the expectation was constant; next, as time went on, and in fact faith and hope fuller, particular events were noticed as immediately imminent……


No: they were no signs, and have no application at all now; and what came on to be revealed as a necessity for the church, for its seeing the evil of the last days, the Holy Ghost has taken care to tell us is arrived.



3.  Dave MacPherson  The Rapture Plot  Millennium III Publishers, ©1994  p. 15

   Tim Grass. The Lord’s Watchman: a life of Edward Irving(1792-1834) Eugene, Ore. : Pickwick Publications, ©2012. p.208